shane

personally i am certain that money mad is not sampled from the Latee track. there are plenty of clean breaks on the 'money mad' bonus beats however.

ah.. the much discussed ultramagnetic mcs -chorus line / james brown - can i get some help break

and a bit of soul pride now and again

another source of the 'mantronix amen' is on the b side of an old UK rap 12inch i have called atomic air raid, by first frontal assault. as well as the instrumental it has a track called 'drum raid'.on this there are 4 bars of clean loop in the middle, a couple of the bars have added reverb. released in 92, so could possibly be what your after.

I have a decent mp3 of the track now, but dont have enough atachment space to upload the break

yeah, i've been after this break for years too, but i've just had a 'break through' (sorry) a track called 'that's how i'm living' by Tony Scott has got 4 bars of clean break near the end, complete with the little 'wooh' on the first and 3rd bar. only heard a poor copy on you-tube so not sure if it's the original source.

there is a breakdown near the end when what sounds like 'hip drop' loops on its own, then a second beat comes in on top and how good is 'serve tea then murder!!!'

dusting off a few old 12's last night i noticed SL2 - 'changing trax' uses this break - what a track! highly recommended.

certainly sounds like 'critical beatdown' to me. that video is pretty scary!!

'think' has got 4 breaks?? 1 - wooh yeah 2 - go on girl (vocal on bass drum only, this is where the clean break comes from) 3 - the bit you call 'do better hank' 4 - sounds like 'you dance rhythm' - like on leviticus, the burial

someone should track down that girl on the drums. - she's brilliant got that same kind of classic sound as graham central station...... do you think they call her the wizard-ess??

i've got the original and the 1990 remix of i'm riffin' and i can't hear anything from either of them in the prodigy track. whoever made that claim is way off. on the subject of the break itself, i dont hear any funky drummer, but i think there's more than a little 'do this my way' in there. i'd say that makes it a 3rd generation beat??

i'm pretty sure, i had the vertigo 12 inch playing at 33. i've listened to 'give the drummer some' 1000s of time and could recognise it however messed up and modified. i'm sure they just added the 'hey' to give a different feel, and messed with the sound quality to get it how they wanted.

haven't heard that tune for a while, i enjoyed digging that out. that's the beat from 'give the drummer some' by ultramagnetic mcs. and if anyone knows where the ultras got it from.. do tell. :wink:

i'm pretty sure it's got one of the breaks from the first kool and the gang album in it, give it up or perhaps chocolate buttermilk

funny you mention black sheep, i have that album and never noticed!, but i picked up the strictly breaks black sheep collection yesterday, which pointed it out. so after all this time i now have 2 copys of the 'do the do' break. my point was that all the D&B tracks only use the first bar of the 'ride cymbal' piece at the end, but there is some great variations waiting to be used in the other bars. i made a track using this break many many years ago, i could now do an interesting re-mix. it's the only time i've used a break that i don't actually know, so i feel much better about it now!

this is 'can i get some help' by james brown, complete with the 'Uh'. can be heard on chorus line pt1 by ultramagnetics, and a bit on chorus line pt2. other tracks using it of the top of my head are sweet harmony by liquid, (minus the 'uh' i think) , and getto heaven by the family stand has it in for a bit. i picked this up years ago on a white label breaks compilation like UB&B called kool kuts, and still haven't managed to find an original copy it does sound a bit like the tom jones 'uh', the one break even my grandma has (really)

massive thanks for this. i have to admit i was sceptical,the link didn't work so i bought it anyway.when i finally got the cd (today) i couldn't beleive it, at least 8 bars with good variations. i wonder why i've only ever heard the first bar used? anyway, very happy now, thanks.

ref- alternate, move my body (which i now notice is a 1 year old post sorry, anyway..) this is a super rare james brown break, track is called 'can i get some help', but he seems to have done loads of versions of this song, so it's hard to track down the right one. you will notice it at the start of sweet harmony by liquid. i expect most people have sampled it from the start of chorus line pt 1 by the ultra magnetic mcs (love that track)

i reckon the prodigy and manix beats were both taken from juice crew law by mc shan. never managed to find the original source unfortunatley. juice_short.wav

hello all i just found this forum and it looks right up my street. i have a break which i have been trying to track down for years it is the main or only break on the following tracks kid caprice - wax doctor sdr and john williams - the busker ltj bukem - horizons omni trio remix of EBTG - walking wounded. i have a massive colloection of original breaks and old school hip hop, and a decent amount of old school drum and bass and rave stuff, so i hope i can help out with some other enquirys in return. cheers shane. unknown.wav