congo natty - LIONs

[haste]

weren't there represses that had cat nos LION1/2/3 that featured different tracks to the original LIONs?

 

i may be wrong about this but just seem to remember that being the case

[Ornette]

Yeah.

 

From the list I had some time ago @ http://www.congonatty.com :

 

LION 001 - Black Star ft Top Cat: Champion Deejay / Kunte Kinte

LION 002 - Conquering Lion feat. Supercat: Code Red

LION 003 - Conquering Lion: Inah Sound / Ras Project

LION 004 - Princess Lydia / Rastaman feat. Beenie Man / Blessed

LION 005 - X-Project ft Frankie Paul & Tenor Fly: Jah Sunshine / ?

...

 

Looking these up,

the LION3 one is that one that's etched RAS PROJECT b/w INAH SOUND with the tracks mentioned here;

 

either LION2 or LION4 is the catalogue of the Princess Lydia EP

http //rolldabeats.com/release/2395/congo_natty_records/princesslydia

- or, LION2 is the plate etched PRINCESS LYDIA FOREVER b/w LION JUNGLE

and LION4 is the plate etched RASTAMAN b/w BLESSED

- or, the "Princess Lydia EP" was simply a bundling of LION2 & LION4 that happened at some point... or maybe even didn't... sch_pr here indicates that single plates were common;

 

the LION1 one appears to have been a straight white label repress of the original LION1.

 

this link here confirms much of this detail

http //congonatty.jungli.st/new_old.phtml (web archive)

[Ornette]

Bit more on this - found a ref for Spoox's full list of 12 on web archive, looks like was up from oct 2004 onwards

https://web.archive....atty.jungli.st/ [28 Nov 2004]

 

an earlier version, with just LION1 - 5 was up around feb 2002.

 

 

Checking for Nu-Urban seems earliest reference is Sept 02 for 1-5, and 6-8 were available at least from May 03 onwards, with 9-12 only showing July 2004 (but probably older)

 

Listed details from Nu-Urban, cross-referenced against Juno & Hard To Find:

 

LION 001 　Black Star feat. Top Cat - Champion Deejay / Kunte Kinte 　　　　　 　　 Juno: 08 Nov 01

plays: Sound Clash Dub

LION 1 A-1-1- b/w LION 1 B-1-1- 　nb. no trailing '1' on either string

 

LION 002 　Conquering Lion feat. Super Cat - Code Red 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Juno: 14 Nov 90 2001;　HTFR [none]: 2002

both play: Emperor Selassie I (unreleased mix)

PRINCESS LYDIA FOREVER b/w LION JUNGLE

 

LION 003 　Conquering Lion - Innah Sound / Ras Project 　　　　　　　　　　　　　 Juno: 29 Nov 01

plays: Lion Of Judah (Boombastic Mix)

RAS PROJECT b/w INAH SOUND

 

LION 004 　Princess Lydia - Rastaman feat. Beenie Man / Blessed　　　　　 　　　 Juno: 08 Dec 01

plays: Rastaman & Blessed

RASTAMAN ✡ b/w BLESSED ✡

 

LION 005 　X-Project feat. Frankie Paul & Tenor Fly - Jah Sunshine / Jah Sunshine　HTFR [DUBPLATE1]: 1994;　Juno: 04 May 02

both play: Jah Sunshine (Ruff Neck Jungle Mix)

JAH ✡ SUNSHINE b/w DUBPLATE 1 ✡

 

LION 006 　Black Star - Radical (DJ Kane Remixes) 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　HTFR: 1995;　Juno [RAS 008]: 07 Dec 02

plays (Juno): Radical (Zulu Warrior Mix) [nb. from Roots CD];　(HTFR): Get Wild (unreleased mix)

RAS 8 ✡ b/w GET WILD ✡

 

LION 007 　Tribe of Issachar feat. Peter Bouncer - Junglist (DJ Zinc Remix) 　　　　Juno: 01 Jan 90 2003?

plays: Junglist (No Sell Out Mix)

 

LION 008 　Unknown Artist - Original Sess (Police in Helicopter) / Yes Selecta 　　 Juno [POLICE]: 28 Sep 01;　Juno: 23 Apr 03

plays (2001): Original Ses (Police In Helicopter), (2003): Yes Selectah

ORIGINAL SES b/w "YES SELECTOR"

 

LION 009 　Tribe of Issachar - Tribal Natty (97 Mix) / Tribal Natty (Original Dubplate Mix) Juno: 17 Jul 03

plays: Tribal Natty '97

 

LION 010 　X Project feat. Junior Reid / Conquering Lion feat. Beenie Man - Banana Boat Man / Code Black

HTFR: 1996;　Juno [DUBPLATE 3]: 01 Jan 90 2003?;　Juno: 09 Aug 03

plays: the 'remade' mix of Banana Boat Man

DUB PLATE 3 ✡ b/w CONQUERING LION ✡

 

LION 011 　X Project - Set It (Original Unreleased Mix)

no clips, but is: Lion Of Judah (Dub Plate Special) / Ghetto Geddon (Dub Mixed)

RAS PROJECT 2 ✡ b/w RAS PROJECT 2 DUB ✡

 

LION 012 　X Project - Calling 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　 　　 Juno (DUBPLATE 2): 30 May 02

plays: Calling & Jungle Flow

DUB PLATE 2 ✡ b/w DUB PLATE 2 DUB ✡

 

 

Some other refs were found, but none of these had clips

HTFR [PRINCESSLYDIA] 1994

HTFR [LION003] 1996;　HTFR [RASPRO] 1996

HTFR [LIONJUNGLE] 1999

Juno [RASPROJECT] 30 Nov 99

HTFR [LION8] 2001

HTFR [DUBPLATE 3] 2004

[Ornette]

Couple more refs, no clips, but images confirm 'LION' designations

 

LION 003 Ras Project / Inah Sound https://www.hhv.de/shop/en/item/congo-natty-ras-project-inah-sound-674617

LION 004 Rastaman / Blessed https://www.hhv.de/shop/en/item/congo-natty-rastaman-blessed-674616

[Ornette]

Something that is a little bit clearer... is the 'ZION' series of represses.

 

These were all pressed between 2008-2009, likely in conjunction with Nu-Urban, as all have the MPO stamper impressions of three concentric rings. They are also all definitely re-presses, as run-out strings so far have proven as matching the original releases. As well they are white labels, much like the original releases (except for 1 & 3 which had 'full' releases)

 

These first show up on Nu-Urban around Oct 08 with five listed (with two as "Coming Soon"), and then later, another three from at least May 09. However, I've not seen any trace of 2, 7, 9, 12 having been done... or 6... in fact, I can't find any trace of an original ZION06... Does a ZION06 actually exist??

 

Listed details from Nu-Urban, cross-referenced against Juno:

 

ZION01 　Rebel MC - Exodus / Mystical Vibration [Oct 08] 　　　　　　　　　　　　　Juno: 11 Sep 08

plays: Exodus & Mystical Vibration

ZION 1A1 Music HOUSE "EXODUS" b/w ZION 1AA-1 Music HOUSE

 

ZION03 　Rebel MC - Jungle Soldier / Rasta Music [Oct 08] 　　　　　　　　 　　　　Juno: 10 Sep 08

plays: Rasta Music & Jungle Souljah

ZION 3-1 Music HOUSE ETHEOPIA b/w LION 3AA1 Music HOUSE

 

ZION04 　Rebel MC - Lose Your Soul / Rebel Music [Oct 08] 　　　　　　　　　　　　Juno: 30 Oct 09

plays: Lose Your Soul & Rebel Music

ZION 4A Music HOUSE b/w ZION 4B Joseph

 

ZION05 　Rebel MC - Seven Seas / Ghetto Life [Oct 08 / May 09]　　　　　　　　　　Juno: 23 Oct 08

plays: Seven Seas & Ghetto Life

 

ZION13 　Rebel MC & Peter Bouncer - Junglist (98 Remix / Original) [Oct 08 / May 09]　Juno: 23 Oct 08

plays: Junglist ('98 Remix) & Junglist (Original Dubplate)

ZION 13A1. Music HOUSE b/w ZION 13AA ORIGINAL JUNGLIST Mt.

 

ZION08 　Rebel MC - Lion Did Crown (99 Mix) / Boom Bye Bye [May 09] 　　　　　　 Juno: 15 Jan 09

plays: Lion Did Crown (Remix) & Inah Sound ('99 Remix)

ZION8A' Music HOUSE b/w ZION8AA' Music HOUSE

 

ZION10 　Rebel MC - Junglist Soldier / Fever (98 Remix) [May 09] 　　　　　　　　　Juno: 10 Dec 08

plays: Jungle Souljah (Remix) & Fever ('98 Remix)

ZION 10A. Music HOUSE b/w ZION 10AA. Music HOUSE

 

ZION11 　Rebel MC - Joseph / Zion [May 09] 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Juno: 18 Mar 09

plays: Joseph & Zion

 

No indication that these represses ever made their way to Hard To Find, though the originals all seem to be listed.

[Ornette]

Couple of candidates for ZION06 ?

 

http //www.rolldabeats.com/release/2375/congo_natty_records/champion99

Champion Natty (99 Remix) / Jah Set It (DJ Kane Remix)

http //www.rolldabeats.com/release/2380/congo_natty_records/hs01

Emperor Selassie I '99 / Revolution

 

Both are '99' remixes of earlier tracks, a theme common to several of the ZION releases

As, I notice ZION09 doesn't actually appear to be etched that going by the discogs entry, though is definitely listed as such on both HTFR and Juno, Though, this might be just because someone hasn't entered it properly.

 

 

Incidentally, someone mentioned DJ Kane has

on youtube denying the CHAMPION99 release as a remix of his! I'm just trying to confirm where that detail came from... I see the discogs entry was submitted with that all the way back in 2002, possibly with a suggestion of it from Chemical... The old cosmic breaks discography has no mention of DJ Kane for it however

 

http //www.cosmicbreaks.com/natty/congonatty.html (still active, would you believe)

[Ornette]

Interesting... I've just noticed the 'RAS' sequence doesn't have a #6 either!

 

Seems that both 'RAS' & 'ZION' both miss out #6 and end on #13... hmmm