The_Manipulator Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Artist: Shades Of RhythmTitle: HomicideLabel: ZTTCat: ZANG13TXYear: 1990 Still a great tune... though I prefer the remix (the one that goes with the video ).Classic synth that has been sampled a lot, even by people like Todd Terry! Armageddon featuring Ray Keith - "News At Ten" [Absolute 2]Nookie - "Give A Little Love" [Absolute 2]Prodigy - "Out Of Space" [XL]Sonz Of A Loop Da Loop Era - "Freedomism [Remix]" [suburban Base]All use the synth. CLIP HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Clip added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxx Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 where can i find this sample in Out Of Space? i'm not sure that Liam used the synth.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 where can i find this sample in Out Of Space? i'm not sure that Liam used the synth....it's behind the vocal "I take your brain to another dimension" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxx Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 what synth did SOR use to play that melody? if it is Roland W30, it means that Liam was able to play it by himself. i can be wrong by i see no sense in sampling the sounds of synthesizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Why? If you listen to oldskool there more than enough evidence of people sampling synths. The ones that get shorter when played at a higher pitch. Not sure where the Prodigy ID comes from (probably from an e-mail I received back in the day and transferred over from my old sample list), but most artists really sample a whole riff! Because like you already mention: people don't want to spend days searching for which synth was used and which settings! W-30? Don't think it sounds like a Roland. Most rolands sound alike as they all have the same components. Next to that, a lot of sounds have been processed as well, so if you want to reproduce the sound, you don't only need to know the synth, but also what they did with it (Homicide seems to at least have a reverse reverb over it). I've read that Liam asked Joey Beltram what he used for the Mentasm synth (Roland Alpha Juno 2) and used that in Charly.According to the D16.pl forum:"Joey Beltram, the co-creator of the Mentasm did say though that he sampled the hoover from the Alpha Juno into another synth so the hoover in the Mentasm track cannot be fully recreated using an Alpha Juno on its own. He refuses to say what synth he sampled it into. Spoilsport lol." So yes, it's perfectly normal to sample a synth. *EDIT* just listened to Out Of Space and I think it's a sample... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxx Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 thank u for the explanation, but in my opinion it's not the sample (i mean OOS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 thank u for the explanation, but in my opinion it's not the sample (i mean OOS) It is, it's just sped up (typical hardcore thing to make it in time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 The only thing against it being a sample is that Liam hasn't sampled that much synths... One of the things in favour of it being a sample is that I think all notes are the same length (just varied slightly by the pitch at which they are played). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeeee Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 There are LOADS of synth sounds in Prodigy tunes that are samples. You just have to know the original tunes they're sampled from in order to recognise them. One that springs to mind is The Heat, The Energy on the Jilted Generation album which samples Lil Louis - I Called You (Why'd u Fall) I agree, it is almost certainly a sample from Homicide, the noise was very widely used in hardcore tunes at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Manipulator Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 There are LOADS of synth sounds in Prodigy tunes that are samples. You just have to know the original tunes they're sampled from in order to recognise them. One that springs to mind is The Heat, The Energy on the Jilted Generation album which samples Lil Louis - I Called You (Why'd u Fall)I sort of stopped with "No good"... (though I really like Girls...). But nothing from the "Experience" era sounds sampled synth-wise. More others sampling him (Gat Decor - Passion being the most famous, but I think also The House Crew - Maniac (Remix) samples Your Love). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeeee Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I sort of stopped with "No good"... (though I really like Girls...). But nothing from the "Experience" era sounds sampled synth-wise. More others sampling him (Gat Decor - Passion being the most famous, but I think also The House Crew - Maniac (Remix) samples Your Love). Now I think about it, it was more the Jilted Generation album I was thinking of to be honest. Agreed on 'Girls', and anything is better than that Pendulum-esque turd they released the other week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeeee Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Here are a couple for you though.... "Your Love" stab noise: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LavwXflG43M Everybody In The Place bassline: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QkGg_QCD2TI The 'other' synth on Charly (the one that comes in over the top of the mentasm riff) is from a Frank De Wulf / B Sides tune (can't remember which) I'm sure one of the other sounds in Out of Space is from an old Belgian tune too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxx Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 O_O you just don't know how i'm happy! guys you are deffo heroes!! all the prodigy fans don't know about these samples, really! thank you all VERY much!! do you happen to know something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialjustin Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 "Joey Beltram, the co-creator of the Mentasm did say though that he sampled the hoover from the Alpha Juno into another synth so the hoover in the Mentasm track cannot be fully recreated using an Alpha Juno on its own. He refuses to say what synth he sampled it into. Spoilsport lol." It was a Casio FZ1 sampler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_s Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Luna-C is remaking a load of old skool tunes and putting up the sample sources So, high pitched stab noise from Homicide: Sound Corp - Dream Finder - [Tone Def Records] Liquid Crystal - You Got Me - [Ruff On Wax Recordings] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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