haste Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 OK, this needs sorting out, just as De Underground stuff always does. Dara's been doing a load of stuff for discogs and I've stolen all of his info (cheers dude :wink: ) Firstly, there is no artist called Reel 2 Reel. That's just the label name All "Mix to the max" & "Brothers in Arms" releases were A-sides Direct Force is not a separate label - they are all releases on Reel 2 Reel. The Bun Cali Weed 12" (JGS003) is by A-Sides. No idea where we got this label name from, Direct Force was a promotions company On RTOR you should change the release artist of We R IE to Lennie De Ice, not too sure about the other tunes on there. We could leave the rest of the artists as Reel 2 Reel still but might be worth changing them to ???. I'll see what else I can find out, anyone else got any Reel 2 Reels that they can have a look at to find artist names Related: Dara's thread on discogs about this http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=57536 Pretty much the same as we'd sorted out on here earlier but the thing about going by label names printed on releases does effect some of what we have in the db. Not because this is a new "rule" for us but because we haven't been enforcing it. things labelled as IE Records wil have to be split from now on,. I'll have to check my copies but there are defiitely some relases we have down as Reel 2 Reel that should be under IE (one you can do right now is RTOR) I can see this one getting very confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 RTR004 is by Dub Wise II and I think is a 5 tracker (3 on b-side) "Raw From China" is the artist that should appear on all the Raw From China volumes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Apparently there are 3 versions of JSG001. OR at least there are three 12s with the same b-side. Im gonna check my copy of Bunn Cali Weed at home as I'm not sure we have the correct cat no for that. Anyone have any more of these 12s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtreme Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 ill see what i have at the weekend, ive got quite a few of these so hope to extract some more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtreme Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 maybe this is related? needs to be added either way. Artist : Uncle 22'Uncle 22 LP' 8 track Vinyl (4 per side)Label : ?Cat No: WMLP001Year : ? 1989/1990 era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uk-vinyl Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Firstly, there is no artist called Reel 2 Reel. That's just the label name Sorry to say this Haste but i am pretty sure Reel 2 Reel was an artist name as well as the label. The artists were John Aymer and some other guy (i can't remember his name). I believe i have a 12 somewhere of R2R on R2R Records - if i find it i will post the details. Sorry m8 - i know this does your head in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Sorry to say this Haste but i am pretty sure Reel 2 Reel was an artist name as well as the label. The artists were John Aymer and some other guy (i can't remember his name). I believe i have a 12 somewhere of R2R on R2R Records - if i find it i will post the details. Sorry m8 - i know this does your head in!I know what you're saying...I wasn't quite clear enough, I think. Reel 2 Reel was printed as an artist name but it was more of a collective thing. There are 12s that I have that were by numerous artists but all appeared under the "Reel 2 Reel" artist. Kinda hard to explain. It's gonna be so hard to figure out who did what on this label until we can tlak to some of those involved in it. DOn't worry though, I know someone who is on the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uk-vinyl Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Reel 2 Reel was printed as an artist name but it was more of a collective thing. There are 12s that I have that were by numerous artists but all appeared under the "Reel 2 Reel" artist.You are right of course, i would only point out that head honcho was John of the Aymer clan. You seem to be getting somewhere now m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Yeah, I think we have him down as owning the label and being Reel 2 Reel at the moment. I hope to split it all up a bit more but, to be honest, don't have that much hope of ever getting to the bottom of this one Thijs - I think the artist for the second track on here should be "Raw From China" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Thijs - I think the artist for the second track on here should be "Raw From China" second track on what? (bit blurry today) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 haha The link might have helped! http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/reel_2_reel/rdr3 me = blurry, not you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtreme Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 i know that 'Raw from China 3' was by A Sides & Lennie De ice. i spoke to a mate only yesterday who got most Reel to Reel on test press straight from A Sides back in the Day. I dont see him that often but he is a goldmine of info, will have to speak to him, i bet he knows most of the artists behind these Reel 2 Reel tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 does he have an internet connection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 i know that 'Raw from China 3' was by A Sides & Lennie De ice. i spoke to a mate only yesterday who got most Reel to Reel on test press straight from A Sides back in the Day.dunno about that... from A-sides:guy called josh.. dont know his second name, from southampton In these sort of cases when it's likely that we'll never find out their full real name why don't we list them as "Josh Raw From China" or something like that. At least that way we have a real name entry for them, or at least a partial real name. There are lots of artists that we know first names of but haven't put them in the database due to not knowing the entire name....would make sense to do this, if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Oh shit, we're getting somewhere Dara says: (2:48:35 PM) was Stooge Reel 2 Reel geezer's brother?? a-sides says: (2:52:24 PM) yeah he was strings brother Dara says: (2:52:36 PM) String was reel 2 reel owner?? a-sides says: (2:52:53 PM) no a-sides says: (2:53:02 PM) that was john a-sides says: (2:53:13 PM) him and string had share a-sides says: (2:53:52 PM) but reel 2 reel was more johns thing Dara says: (2:53:57 PM) De Ug label weren't owned by Randall was it?? a-sides says: (2:54:05 PM) no Mike a-sides says: (2:54:18 PM) mainly mikey run everything there Dara says: (2:54:52 PM) was John Flex's cousin?? a-sides says: (2:55:04 PM) brothera-sides says: (2:55:18 PM) flex, mikey and john all brothers So Mike De Underground = Mike Aymer and owner of De Underground String = Other owner of Reel 2 Reel, but the label was basically just run by John Stooge = String's brother who ran this label http://www.discogs.com/label/Stooge+Productions Also should be linked to Reel 2 Reel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtreme Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 ahh, he must have got it wrong then. or did a sides say it was by him at the time :rolleyes: nice info, getting there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Lennie De Ice is NOT John Aymer :rolleyes: He had nothing to do with owning any of the De Underground labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtreme Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=41778 another interesting thing to find out, how Reel 2 Reel were involved with the ITV Telethon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 another interesting thing to find out, how Reel 2 Reel were involved with the ITV Telethon?I have no idea...it is definitely the weirdest and most random thing I've ever seen on a hardcore 12".....just! I'd be very surprised if they had anything to do with the Telethon, I'm sure they just put the logo on there for a laugh. http://pages.infinit.net/bluefire/Images/conf44.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtreme Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 yeah, i thought that at first until i remembered this flyer: http://www.hardscore.com/flyers/images/dancenation_jpg.jpg something strange indeed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 The plot thickens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thijs Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 what is/was this telethon thing you two are on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uk-vinyl Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Raw from China - definately that Josh guy - saw him do a PA somewhere - dont ask me where or when - those days are a bit blurry now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 A live day long television broadcast run by the largest commercial tv channel over here in order to raise money for charity. They just put a big 24 hour program on and people rang in to donate money and all sorts of crap celebrities came on and did stupid stuff in an attempt to get more cash in Quite why a tiny hardcore label has anything to do with this I have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haste Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Thijs...slight confusion over http://www.rolldabeats.com/release/reel_2_reel/rdr3 I was suggesting that the second tune on that reocord should be Raw From China - ??? (Part 3 Omen Mix) This is going to be hard to represent without track names. Maybe we need to go through the Raw From China releases giving them standard track names so that we can work out the remixes on the 12s. I'm not sure if I have any of them though, so could be tricky....anyone got all four? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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